Discussion thread: Project Hosting Ending July 8

ooh that’s a great question! i assume that because we’ll be able to download projects through end of year that this would be the case for assets too, but confirmation on that would be greatly appreciated!

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Can we also talk about Glitch API responses. When will those end, and will there be any option to receive a final archive of your User API response? (e.g. https://api.glitch.com/users/1433977)

[yes I have downloaded it myself today, but I just wanna put this out there as a dependency]

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after lots of hard work on my website, this pops up, WHY.

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Guys, Cloud Run its an easy cheap option.

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:saluting_face: Thank you for providing such a wonderful service for so many years. You played a big role in helping me learn new things. I’m truly grateful for everything. Farewell.

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I’ve been a huge fan since the very beginning. Very sad news, but I am grateful for everything as well, and wishing the team all the best!

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I’m not a fan of those overly sweet, corporate-style messages that try to sugarcoat the truth: Glitch was simply too good to last, and you’re losing money. Your project was admirable—and in many ways, a turning point for the internet, and for that reason, this isn’t just your loss or ours. It’s a loss for the world.

That said, my only real complaint is this: if you knew the situation wasn’t financially sustainable, you could have at least announced it a year in advance—not overnight.

In the end, it’s not your company or the users who lose the most. It’s the internet itself, which becomes a little more rigid, a little more grey.

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What happens to projects that aren’t downloaded?

Are you talking to archive.org to make sure everything is saved?

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I second @davidcelis. I had understood Glitch as an organization that prided itself on candor and clarity in communications with its users, and this falls short; “Important Changes are Coming to Glitch” as the blog post title is risible.

And it’s eyebrow-raising, at least, to read:

… This is a big change, but it’s not an “Our Incredible Journey” post about how our corporate overlords made us shut down the app hosting infrastructure for Glitch. It’s a story about recognizing when an ecosystem has changed, and evolving to reflect reality, and to respect our users and community by making the right choices when it’s time…

I’m not impressed by the attempt to claim that the “Our Incredible Journey” trope doesn’t apply; I think perhaps the users might have more of a say there.

Was there any consultation with people in the userbase before the shutdown decision, or before finalizing plans for tools and timelines to support exports and migration?

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can we have a clear and definitive answer, is glitch permanently shutting down, or are there plans to change it to something else?

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Project hosting and user profiles are shutting down, but the announcement says:

Last year, we built the ability for paid Glitch members to share their own apps that they built elsewhere on their Glitch profiles, and we’ll be exploring how we might be able to revisit those kinds of ideas with the Glitch community going forward.

On Mastodon, Dash wrote:

We’re thinking through what’s next. I’m really interested in how we can look at all the other amazing creation and app experiences out there (I really love stuff like Val Town and Fly.io and Deno and Netlify, etc.) and bring all those together for easily making and remixing new apps. Will take a bit to figure that out.

So the implication is that Glitch, going forward, will be a way to share and discover web apps for remixing, but Glitch won’t provide hosting.

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The end of Fastly hosting Glitch is a great opportunity to open source any infrastructure or other proprietary Glitch software you hadn’t previously released! What subset of Glitch’s project hosting software will you be releasing under an open source license?

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This is very sad to see but not surprising. Glitch was such a valuable tool, even just in the collaborative aspect. Would love if you guys got things sorted with archive.org or even a torrent for public projects (the latter would be very cool).

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Someone sold out to someone and you don’t need to ask questions. The shark ate the little fish.

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Oh boy, I remember the times i somewhat make an glitch uptimer (which somehow violate their ToS back before the existence of project hours), And then proceed making random small things (like a 4chan inspired site, and something similar to invidious) and deploy it to glitch.com. These were the golden ages.

As a sysadmin perspective, Making a big change on the current glitch infra means sacrificing the existing instance so i could pretty much tell how is this happening.

Well, It has been a great journey to make random things here, Folks!

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I never got the email, and I wish I hadn’t seen this either cause :broken_heart: :broken_heart:

Glitch was my childhood (probably not the right thing to be doing as a kid, instead of going out and making friends) and seeing it shutdown is like when your parents take away that one teddy bear for washing and you never see it again. It hurts, but eventually you accept the pain and move onto other teddy bears. Jokes aside, it takes a lot of courage to admit that things aren’t working and end on a pleasant note, before the experience gets terrible for users and Glitch doesn’t have a unique reputation anymore.

Thank you for all the jams, apps (RIP Heardles), Twitch streams, and fun stuff. Glitch was a very useful tool for education, especially for classrooms and workshops (and now I’ll have to find an alternative). I hope Glitch bounces back with something better, maybe it was all about the friends we made along the way.

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Guess I wasn’t wrong after all :sweat_smile: this was coming from a mile away; glitch isn’t making any money.

This is heartbreaking. Glitch played a huge role in my programming journey back in middle and high schools, and now I’m entering my third year of studying computer science in university.

Met so many kind and brilliant people here (shoutout to @khalby786 @aboutdavid @javaarchive @EddiesTech) and staff (@jenn @tasha).

I send my best wishes to the team; Glitch will always hold a special place in my heart.

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The friendly atmosphere and the low barrier to entry here at Glitch made a beginning coder like me feel welcome and gave me the confidence to take on more and more ambitious projects … some of which kinda worked?! Anyhow, I learned a lot here.

I’m sad about the change but grateful to the team and community. Thanks for making and running this cool thing. I do look forward to seeing what Glitch evolves into. <3

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First off, I am quite sad about this. I do have this question: will you keep the community?
Second, I have this other question: why?


I feel like the evidence for this has been creeping up on us. However, I am still super sad. I don’t want to have to find another alternative. I do feel like free Project Hosting is not a sustainable business. I do want to say thank you. Unlike Replit’s community, this community 100% positive. I am going to have to work to download a bunch of projects.

I think the fact that we have had 39 comments in less than 24 hours shows you how many people liked this. There are people here who’s first time posting is here, or there first time in 5 years!

I agree with @davidcelis’s post and had the same thoughts.

Well, I gotta go start migrating projects. if the community DOES end, goodbye everyone. Y’all were amazing. I’ll be on GitHub, so you can reach out to me there. Truly amazing. I will miss y’all.

MilesWK

Man, this is soooo hard tbh with y’all.

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