COPPA really applies to any website in the world that is visited by/appeals to people in the United States.
If there were to be a more kid-oriented version of Glitch, it would have to be separate from main glitch (Maybe something like kids.glitch.com) and accounts could not be created.
Glitch’s ToS also says:
Unless otherwise indicated, you must be at least thirteen (13) years of age to use the Services or to provide any information to Glitch, Inc. through the Services (including, for example, a name, address, telephone number, or email address). If you are a parent and believe your child under the age of thirteen (13) has created an Account without your consent or otherwise provided personal information to Glitch, Inc. without your consent, please contact us at support@glitch.com.
It seems like parents give their child consent to be on glitch. (above)
Please, correct me if I am wrong and/or I read something wrong.
@RiversideRocks, without an account, how would a kid make and save projects with them clearing their browsing history and cookies every second?
If this is not the case, I’m already one step ahead of glitch 
https://new-learn-code.glitch.me
I’m not even sure if kids will even know how to browse the site 
Also, I think the only thing we should need if we were all kids just a guide on internet safety and permission from parents/guardians. It even says part of that in the Glitch ToS.
Actually it’s quite simple. You can just download your code when you finish into the .tgz file.
To open the project again, you can just upload it to the glitch cdn, download it into the terminal and extract it. You can even password protect tgz files I think.
Based on what I’ve seen 5th and 6th grade kids could possibly figure out the site and possibly a very curious/determined/motivated 4th grader.
Sounds very familiar…
Most platforms for kids aren’t very well designed. For example Tynker’s are you a parent or teacher system asks questions like “What is 7x8” which 3rd graders should be able to answer according to educational standards.
Can’t we have a few servers outside Europe, maybe in Asia, or does Asia also have a version of the COPPA?
There has to be a way around COPPA, or whatever country would have the least restrictive laws.
Although now that I think of it, The Principality of Sealand is a micronation that is used as a data haven. That could help?
COPPA laws apply to all websites that are visited by people in the US. It is vert similar to GDPR (the eu cookie law)
https://www.socalinternetlawyer.com/does-the-eu-cookie-law-apply-to-u-s-websites/
Article 3(2) of the GDPR focuses on the territorial scope of the regulation – who has to comply. The gist is the GDPR applies to websites anywhere in the world that:
So it does matter depending on who all visits the page.
I’ve just briefly read some of COPPA and from what I can see, a signup form looking like the one below will comply with COPPA.
The other issue is, it is really difficult to know if a parent gave you permission or not. For example, if a 13+ social media (ie. discord) website catches somebody <13, they will ban them.
I think the only way to do this is a system with no accounts.
However, I have seen an account system work on Scratch, so maybe they can replicate that.
If a parent didn’t give their child permission to signup, then they need to teach their child that they don’t go and signup for every website they see without their permission.
Yeah, what about Scratch??? They’re used by children below 13, and do they follow COPPA?
I think coding is a life skill - some people need to know how to code if they want to sign up for a programmer job. It’s good to practice in an early age.
Just to clear some things up here, there is nothing stopping a website from allowing signups from under 13s as long as they have have permission from a parent/guardian. There are exceptions to do this, for example in the UK if you are a counselling or preventaroy service you are exempt from the requirement of consent from a parent or guardian. For glitch, they would just need permission. There are lots of areas that aren’t covered in especially Coppa, now we are mostly online
You just need to not ask them for personal information like First Name, Last Name, etc… What you can ask them is for a unique username(like scratch) and maybe a email.
Yeah… I hope to add that
folks, sorry to bear the bad news, but, this probs won’t happen, yes, we are a community, yes we believe this could be done, but it can’t, we know there are people here on glitch always breaking the tos making it unfair for everyone, so, if there was a “glitch for kids”, the same thing would occur there
We are already making it happen @Jonyk56
